madVR v0.86.0 Frees HTPC Users from 3:2 Pulldown Judder

Feb 20 2013

Using a HTPC isn't always the easiest way to watch content, but nothing combines the flexibility, capability and potential into a single consumption point like it does. Those that demand the highest quality often rail against the complexity required, and to be fair they have a point, but it's there and few products demonstrate this like the high quality video renderer madVR. As an HTPC advocate, I love it when new features arrive and it's even better when they are exclusive Smile.

For the techincally challenged it can be a little challenging to get madVR installed and configured, so if you fall into this group you may want to wait until the next JMC build to incorportate madVR's newest feature:

Introducing the new "smooth motion" frame rate changer (FRC) with the following main features / benefits:
(1) Can convert any source frame rate to any display refresh rate, while maintaining smooth motion.
(2) Endless playback without frame drops/repeats (if your PC is fast enough) without needing Reclock.

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Technically the FRC algorithm simulates a display with infinite refresh rate. Which means that every video frame is displayed exactly when the timestamps ask for it. Consequently the motion smoothness depends on proper timestamps. If the timestamps (or audio clock) contain jitter, the playback will contain jitter, too. So even if Reclock might not be needed to avoid frame drops/repeats, anymore, when using madVR's new FRC algorithm, you might still want to use Reclock, because it provides a stable and reliable audio clock with very low jitter, and it supports WSAPI exclusive mode, too. You can however slave Reclock to the audio hardware clock, if you want. Having Reclock fully enabled with audio resampling is still possible, though, it shouldn't harm madVR's FRC algorithm.

To my best knowledge madVR is now the only way to playback Blu-Ray/DVD movies without 3:2 pulldown judder on displays which don't support 23.976Hz playback properly. I don't think any hardware Blu-Ray player can do that, or even any of the expensive video processors. (Correct me if I'm wrong). 

madVR (@Doom9)

Otherwise grab the latest release and have at it. I know I will (with MPC-HC) later tonight; and for those who are asking (I did) - it should run well on HD4000 GPUs.

Comments

So happy to see this. I haven't delved deep into madVR, as it even over my head mostly, but this is a clear benefit. Not everything I play is via Media Center. Smile

Speaking of madVR being over my head, any plans for a how to article? I think that would help a lot of us.

You don't want to work your way through the 877 page thread? Wink

The basics are really easy if you use JMC, just select Red October HQ. Tweaking it comes down to your GPU's limits and personal preference. That said, I've been meaning to write something up just been distracted with work and other projects lately.

There was a thread? Surprised

I........had no idea. Foot in Mouth

Gives me something to read to and from work. Hopefully one day you can get around to that article. Thanks.

I believe the thread he's referring to is this one:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1357375/advanced-mpc-hc-setup-guide

Assassin has a how-to guide on his blog site.  Well worth the $25 to join if you haven't already done so.

http://assassinhtpcblog.com/

I was refering to the madVR thread on Doom9, but yours is much better. I didn't know that existed Smile.

I don't get over to Doom9 as much as I used to so I actually forgot about that one.  The timing of this announcement couldn't be better.  I just picked up a new Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 with the intent of trying out madVR.  Assassin has a step-by-step tutorial for setting it up and using MPC-HC on his blog.  Now I really have something to look forward to.Smile

Neither thread is really useful to me. I already know how to use and install MPC-HC and the LAV filters, installing madVR, and all that. The madVR thread on Doom 9 I've been following for a better part of a year. All it really is an announcement thread for new versions, people giving bug reports and general talk, as well as thanking madshi and giving him deserved praise for his efforts.

What I need is an explanation of all the functions and what they do. What do the bars on the side signify? Whats the difference, and pros and cons between each option? Maybe the Assasin HTPC blog does that..... but  that's $25 better spent directly supporting nevcairiel, madshi, and the MPC-HC developers for all their hard work.

SikSlayer wrote:

What I need is an explanation of all the functions and what they do. What do the bars on the side signify? Whats the difference, and pros and cons between each option? Maybe the Assasin HTPC blog does that..... but  that's $25 better spent directly supporting nevcairiel, madshi, and the MPC-HC developers for all their hard work.

This is all in the madVR thread along with some amazing discussions around video processing, algorithms, and other really technical stuff. The problem is that it's surrounded by a tremendous amount of the kind of noise you mentioned Smile.

It's a crasy way to run a forum they have over there, no?

Note how time-sesitive any of those comments are: As the versons come out, old tweaks and settings become counter-productive.

So isn't madVR the religious argument of all HTPC'dom? "Any old thing" vs. "Get a Real video card?" Or maybe "no moving parts" vs. "it'll play Crysis" …

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