Cable Provider Copy Protection, Switched Digital Video and Self-Install Status Master List

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Cable Provider Copy Protection, Switched Digital Video and Self-Install Status Master List

Hello Folks,

We are reaching out to ask for your assistance in compiling information regarding the copy protection and switched digital video status of cable providers so that new subscribers will be better informed and also for the general interest of everyone.

All information in the thread will be updated in this first post on a routine basis. Please reply to the thread with as much of the the following information you can provide: 

  1. Cable Provider
  2. Location (What your guide is configured for in WMC)
  3. Copy Protection
    1. Everything Copy Freely
    2. Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package Copy Once
    3. Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely, Premiums (e.g. HBO) Copy Once
    4. Everything Copy Once
  4. SDV Status: Tuning Adapter required (Yes or No)
  5. Self-Install: Allowed (Yes or No) Before answering No, please verify the installation was after Aug. 9th or check with provider for current status.

Thanks for your contribution!

Cheers!

 

ProviderLocationCopy ProtectionSDVSelf-Install
Adams, Cable ServiceWindsor, NYEverything Copy FreelyNoYes
Bright HouseTampa Bay, FLLocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceYesYes
Charter CommunicationsBay City, MIEverything Copy FreelyYesUnknown
Charter CommunicationsCentral (Willmar), MNLocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums Copy OnceYesYes
Charter CommunicationsKalamazoo, MIAlmost entirely Copy Freely with individual exceptions such as HBO True BloodYesUnknown
Charter Communications Madison, WIEverything Copy FreelyYesYes
Charter Communications Rochester, MNEverything Copy FreelyYesYes
Charter CommunicationsSturgis, MILocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums Copy OnceYesYes
ComcastBellingham, WALocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceNoYes
ComcastChicagoLocals and Expanded Copy FreelyNoYes
ComcastElmhurst/Oak Park, ILLocals and Expanded Copy FreelyNoUnknown
ComcastHouston, TXLocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums Copy OnceNoYes
ComcastKirkland, WALocals and Expanded Copy Freely Note: Encore Copy OnceNoYes
ComcastMinneapolis, MNLocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premium Copy Once Note: random behavior on AMC contentNoYes
ComcastMountain View, CALocals and Expanded Copy FreelyNoYes
ComcastPittsburgh, PALocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premium Copy Once Note: Encore Copy OnceNoUnknown
ComcastRolling Meadows, ILLocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premium Copy OnceNoUnknown
ComcastSan Francisco, CALocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums Copy Once.   Note: random behavior on AMC contentNoYes
Cox CableAlachua County, Gainesville, FLLocals and Expanded Copy FreelyNoYes
Cox CableLas Vegas, NVLocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums Copy OnceNoUnknown
Cox CableNew Orleans, LALocals and Expanded Copy FreelyYesYes
Cox CableNorman, OKLocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceNoProbably
Cox CableNorthern VALocals Copy Freely, Expanded Inconsistent, Premiums Copy OnceYesNo (Maybe)
Cox CableOmaha, NELocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums Copy OnceNoYes
Cox CableSan Diego County, South, CALocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceYesYes
Cox CableTulsa, Broken Arrow, OKLocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums Copy OnceNoYes
MediacomWaseca, MNEverything Copy FreelyNoYes
RCNBoston, MALocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums Copy OnceNoUnknown
Time WarnerCharlotte, NCLocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceYesYes
Time WarnerDallas, TXLocals Copy Freely, Everything else Copy OnceYesUnknown
Time WarnerLincoln, NEEverything Copy OnceYesProbably
Time WarnerLos Angeles County, North--Chatsworth, CALocals Copy Freely , Everything else Copy OnceYesYes
Time WarnerLos Angeles County, East San Fernando Valley, CALocals Copy Freely, Everything Else Copy OnceYesNo (Maybe)
Time WarnerMilwaukee, WILocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceYesUnknown
Time WarnerRaleigh, NCLocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceYesProbably
Time WarnerSan Antonio, TXLocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceYesYes
Time WarnerRochester, NYLocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceYesYes
Time WarnerWaterville, MELocals Copy Freely, Expanded Copy OnceYesYes
Verizon FiOSFairfax, VAEverything Copy FreelyNoYes
Verizon FiOSHoward County, MDLocals and Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums probably Copy FreelyNoYes
Verizon FiOSTemple Terrace, FLEverything Copy FreelyNoYes
Verizon FiOSTewksbury, MALocals and Expanded Copy FreelyNoYes

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1. Comcast

2. San Francisco

3. Locals & Expanded Copy Freely, Premiums Copy Once.   Note I get random behavior on AMC shows here.   Sometimes the protection bit is set, and sometimes it's not. 

4. No SDV

5. Yes

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1. Time Warner Cable

2. Los Angeles (LA County North--Chatsworth Headend)

3. b Locals copy freely everything else on HD with a half dozen expections copy once

4. SDV current 297 SDV channels, total including SDV 650 Need TA, upgraded to six stream

5. Yes

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updated! thx!

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I could have swore I wrote this last night...

  1. Cable Provider - Charter Communications
  2. Location (What your guide is configured for in WMC?) - Kalamazoo, MI Charter Digital
  3. Copy Protection - Somewhere between CopyFree & CopyOnce.  All channels are CopyFree but only "some" content is CopyOnce (ie, HBO TrueBlood is CopyOnce but 99% of the Movies on HBO are CopyFree).
  4. SDV Status: Tuning Adapter required (Yes or No) - Yes - Motorola TA
  5. Self-Install: Allowed (Yes or No) - Unknown

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  1. Comcast
  2. Elmhurst/Oak Park (or something like that, don't remember exactly since it wasn't really where I lived)
  3. Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely
  4. No
  5. No when I did it, not sure now.
  1. Cox
  2. Gainesville, Cox Communications Alachua County (Digital)
  3. Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely
  4. No
  5. Yes

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  1. Comcast
  2. Rolling Meadows, IL
  3. Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely, premium copy once
  4. No
  5. Don't know (they should, but my install pre-dated the rule change.)
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  1. Cable Provider : Brighthouse Cable
  2. Location Tampabay
  3. Copy Protection : Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package Copy Once
  4. SDV Status: Tuning Adapter required Yes
  5. Self-Install: Allowed Yes
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  1. Cable Provider : Brighthouse Cable
  2. Location Tampabay
  3. Copy Protection : Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package Copy Once
  4. SDV Status: Tuning Adapter required Yes
  5. Self-Install: Allowed Yes
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  1. Cable Provider: Comcast
  2. Location (What your guide is configured for in WMC): Minneapolis, MN
  3. Copy Protection: AMC but only on random moves will I see a copy once flag or broadcast flag. Also all premium channels (HBO, Stars, ect...) are copy once. Everything else is copy freely.
  4. SDV Status: Tuning Adapter required (Yes or No): No, 100% digital, no SDV.
  5. Self-Install: Allowed (Yes or No): Yes!!!!

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  1. Cable Provider - Comcast
  2. Location - Houston Texas Digital
  3. Copy Protection Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package (HD Channels) Copy Once with a few exceptions
  4. SDV Status: Tuning Adapter required - No
  5. Self-Install: Allowed - Yes

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1. Cox Cable

2. Omaha, Nebraska

3. Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely, Premiums (e.g. HBO) Copy Once

4. SDV = NO

5. Self-Install = YES

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  1. Cox Cable
  2. New Orleans LA
  3. Copy Protection Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely, Premiums - i don't subscribe to any so i don't know (e.g. HBO) Copy Once
  4. SDV Status: Tuning Adapter required - Yes
  5. Self-Install: Yes
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  1. Cox Communications
  2. Norman, OK
  3. Only Locals Copy Freely, Rest Copy Once
  4. No SDV
  5. Allows self install cable boxes so I assume self install CC should now be here
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1. Time Warner

2. Lincoln, NE

3. Copy Once Everything

4. Yes

5. Probably

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  1. Verizon FiOS
  2. Temple Terrace, FL
  3. Copy Protection
    1. All Copy Freely
  4. SDV Status: No
  5. Self-Install: Yes

On copy protection, it looks like option A and D are the same?

Also in case you want, they have a list on TiVoCommunity forums.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=451107

 

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Updated, Thanks. Hopefully we can build a more comprehensive list Smile

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Time Warner Cable Dallas,TX

SDV

Copy once on everything except local channels

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  1. Cox Communications
  2. Broken Arrow (Tulsa area), OK
  3. Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely, Premiums (e.g. HBO) Copy Once
  4. SDV Status: No
  5. Self-Install: Yes

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Cox Las Vegas copy protection c no SDV no self install unknown. 

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1. Cable Provider: Charter Communications

2. Location: Central, MN (Willmar, MN to be exact but most of Charters' systems are the same in all of central MN.)

3. Copy Protection: Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely, Premiums (e.g. HBO) Copy Once

4. SDV: Yes, notice given states it starts on or after Oct. 11th, 2011

5. Self Installs: Yes

 

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Cox Northern Virginia, Locals Copy Freely, Inconsistent on other HD - some copy free, others Copy once.  Premiums are "protected." SDV is used.  No Self Install.

 

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1. Comcast

2. Bellingham, WA

3. Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely, Premiums (e.g. HBO) Copy Once

4. No

5. Yes

 

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1.  Verizon FIOS

2.  Howard Co., MD

3.  Everything copy freely AFAIK (I dropped all premium channels)

4.  No

5.  Yes

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Time Warner Cable

East San Fernando Valley, CA

B - Local Copy Freely, Everything else Copy once

Yes - Tuning adapter

No - Self Install

(Note - Problem with tuning adapter, not sure if its WMC, every month or so I lose channels, and I need to reconfigure channel guide in WMC to get them all back. Have had tuning adapter replaced once already. But no help)

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Provider:  Charter

Location:  Bay City, MI (Digital)

Copy Protection:  Everything Copy Freely (last time I checked)

SDV Status:  Yes (Motorola, updated firmware supports 6 streams)

Self-Install:  Unknown

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dhwinner wrote:

(Note - Problem with tuning adapter, not sure if its WMC, every month or so I lose channels, and I need to reconfigure channel guide in WMC to get them all back. Have had tuning adapter replaced once already. But no help)

Consider starting a thread here to discuss your issue.

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  1. Time Warner Cable
  2. Charlotte, NC
  3. Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package Copy Once
  4. Tuning Adapter required
  5. Self-Install: Allowed

It's important to only judge self install data less than a month old - most MSOs didn't allow it before then, but almost all are legally required to now.

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erkotz wrote:

It's important to only judge self install data less than a month old - most MSOs didn't allow it before then, but almost all are legally required to now.

Please heed this warning folks. The information in this list is only as good as what is reported here. If replying "No" to Self Install, please make sure this is correct as of Aug. 9th.

If anyone sees info that is incorrect, feel free to point it out.

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  1. RCN (Digital)
  2. Boston
  3. Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely, Premiums (e.g. HBO) Copy Once
  4. No Tuning Adapter required
  5. No Self-Install (from March 2011). Not sure after.
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1.Time Warner Cable

2.Raleigh, NC 

3.Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package Copy Once

4.Tuning Adapter required

5.Self-Install: Unsure - Cablecard installed a few months back, self install not allowed then, but I've heard it is now allowed, but not verified (haven't needed a second cable card yet)

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  1. Comcast
  2. Houston
  3. Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely, Premiums (e.g. HBO) Copy Once
  4. SDV Status: No (thank you)
  5. Self-Install: Yes

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1)  Charter Communications
2)  Sturgis, MI
3)  All SD basic ,expanded basic, digital view, digital view plus, and sports view are copy free.  All HD including movie channels are copy free.  All SD movie channels are copy once.
4)  Yes, Moto MTR-700
5)  Yes, and they will ship a card for free.  Do not know if they will ship TA free.

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1.  Verizon FIOS

2.  Tewksbury, MA

3.  Everything copy freely so far. Haven't tested HBO/Showtime/Starz

4.  No

5.  Yes, though I had them do the install to be on the safe side.

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1. Verizon FiOS

2. Fairfax, VA

3. Everything Copy Freely

4. No

5. Yes

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  1. Comcast
  2. City of Pittsburgh
  3. HBO Copy Once, Encore can be either once or Copy Freely.  All others Copy Freely.
  4. SDV Status: No SDV
  5. Self-Install: Unknown, was not available previously 

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Comcast

Chicago

Locals and Expanded Package Copy Freely

No SDV Smile

Self Install - pick up only, will not ship (I tried).

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Kirby wrote:

1)  Charter Communications
2)  Sturgis, MI
3)  All SD basic ,expanded basic, digital view, digital view plus, and sports view are copy free.  All HD including movie channels are copy free.  All SD movie channels are copy once.
4)  Yes, Moto MTR-700
5)  Yes, and they will ship a card for free.  Do not know if they will ship TA free.

Updating my area, HD premium channels are now copy-once.

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I find it interesting that no one has listed Cablevision.  I wonder if everyone realized they sucked and went to satellite.

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Updated, thanks.

Still looking for some major markets like New York, Philadelphia, San Antonio, etc.

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  1. Time Warner
  2. Milwaukee, WI 
  3. b. Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package Copy Once
  4. Yes
  5. Unknown, my install was a long time ago
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Another question would be how does your provider deal with CableCards? I was shocked to find that Comcrap gives me a "free" M-card but requires a $8.00 "Digital Cable Outlet" fee. Stupid thing is that this is regional within Comcrap. Reading around some people have had success saying that they are using the card in a Tv that has a cable box to get picture in picture so it is on the same "outlet" to get the fee waived.

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  1. Time Warner Cable
  2. Waterville, ME
  3. Copy Protection: Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package Copy Once.
  4. SDV Status: Yes - Motorola: MTR700.
  5. Self-Install: Yes, Call in only for now though, not online.
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Comcast

Mountain View, CA

Locals and Expanded are Copy Freely

Unable to test Premium

SDV: No

Self-Install: Yes

My Home Theater, XLobbyMC
To Do: Finish Re-ripping my music collection - While Playing FF XIV

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Charter

Madison, WI

Copy Freely all

SDV:Yes (MTR700)

Self Install: Yes

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Update on copy protection for TWC LA County North (Chatsworth headend). Now virtually everything is copy once except for OTA retransmissions and some SD channels.

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I periodically get an erroneous message about copy restricted, but it still records correctly anyway so I ignore it.  Can you tell me how I would know how to answer "Copy Proctection" without just calling the cable company?

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Depending on your CableCard product, you can determine by looking at the diagnostic information while watching the program (may be designated as CCI). You can also record a program and use WMC Info command when it has concluded recording. If the program is copy protected, there will be a designation.

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  1. Time Warner (ugh)
  2. San Antonio, TX (Digital)
  3. Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package Copy Once
  4. SDV Status: Yes (When it works)
  5. Self-Install:Yes  

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Charter Communitcation

Rochester, MN

Non Premiums Copy Freely

Pay Channels (HBO, Showtime) Copy Once

Switched Digital Video Adaptor

Yes Self Install, good luck, might require multiple calls to Charter

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Time Warner Cable

Rochester, NY

Copy Protection: Locals Copy Freely, Expanded Package Copy Once (virtually everything)

Tuning Adapter required (Yes)

Self-Install allowed (Yes)  but be prepared for delays in getting a tuner adapter as well as accurate information from local tech support

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