Thanks for the input so far. The build link was very helpful. I am going to pick and choose from the micro atx premium and high end systems. amd 965 black. GIgabyte ga880m-udh2 motherboard. so far that’s 220 for parts. I would like the base of the system to be as much as i can afford. with 6.o gig sata I am thinking no SSD hard drive. Upgraded graphics cards, memory, etc can be added later.