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I am using my Ceton with SageTV, and I have had less than a handful of times where it dropped off.  A reboot always fixed it.

Definitely make sure you also have latest firmwares (there are 2) for your Ceton.

Have you contacted Ceton?  The one time I used their support it was very good.

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[quote=”shadymg”]
Hrmm….i had read about this buzz issue, but i haven’t noticed it on my TC-P50S2…is it something that happens over time? I’ll admit my apartment is not the quietest room in the world
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I think it has something to do with the way the power supplies are designed for Plasma TVs, since all brands of plasma supposedly do it to some extent.  I don’t think it gets louder over time, so if you don’t notice it now, you should be good.

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[quote=”shadymg”]
Hrmm….i had read about this buzz issue, but i haven’t noticed it on my TC-P50S2…is it something that happens over time? I’ll admit my apartment is not the quietest room in the world
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I think it has something to do with the way the power supplies are designed for Plasma TVs, since all brands of plasma supposedly do it to some extent.  I don’t think it gets louder over time, so if you don’t notice it now, you should be good.

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[quote=”autoboy”]
You’ll find problems with all sets if you go looking for them.  Plasma seems like it is the best fit for  you.  I can’t imagine that you are very happy with the picture from a LED DLP.  I found their picture to have a big bright spot in the middle, very poor off angle viewing (from relatively minor angles it got bad), and an abundance of the silk screen effect.  My Plasma is worlds better than any of my two rear projectors.
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It would seem that Plasma would be the best fit for me, but I didn’t like it, mostly because of the buzz. 

What bothers me most about TVs is when the dynamically change anything about the picture.  On LCDs, I hate the “Dynamic Contrast” that is required for fake, good blacks (and also the off-axis problems).  On plasmas, I am sensitive to the buzzing, and I hate the automatically decreased output on bright scenes.  As a hockey fan, the ice gets dimmer the more there is of it on screen on plasma, which I see as it happens, and that annoys me! 

It is likely that I am just used to it, but the Sammy LED DLP I have does not have any Silk Screen effect at all (I know what you are talking about, and it was horrible on most of the DLPs), and the dynamic contrast can be turned off.  There is a little off-axis issues, but not nearly as bad as that Sony LCD, but it is more about decreased light output when off-axis than a change in the contrast, like the sony.  The DLP does not have the detail that a modern LCD or plasma does, but it produces a very pleasing, [b]stable[/b] picture.  Keep in mind that the DLP that I have is the HLS5679, which was their first gen [b]LED[/b] DLP, and it is by far the best (IMHO) DLP they produced.  For some reason, their next (and last) generation of DLPs took a step backwards in terms of detail and build quality ($$).  It does have geometry problems, and the power supply fails on ALL of them after a couple years, but I do love that tv…..

Sorry for the digression!

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[quote=”autoboy”]
You’ll find problems with all sets if you go looking for them.  Plasma seems like it is the best fit for  you.  I can’t imagine that you are very happy with the picture from a LED DLP.  I found their picture to have a big bright spot in the middle, very poor off angle viewing (from relatively minor angles it got bad), and an abundance of the silk screen effect.  My Plasma is worlds better than any of my two rear projectors.
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It would seem that Plasma would be the best fit for me, but I didn’t like it, mostly because of the buzz. 

What bothers me most about TVs is when the dynamically change anything about the picture.  On LCDs, I hate the “Dynamic Contrast” that is required for fake, good blacks (and also the off-axis problems).  On plasmas, I am sensitive to the buzzing, and I hate the automatically decreased output on bright scenes.  As a hockey fan, the ice gets dimmer the more there is of it on screen on plasma, which I see as it happens, and that annoys me! 

It is likely that I am just used to it, but the Sammy LED DLP I have does not have any Silk Screen effect at all (I know what you are talking about, and it was horrible on most of the DLPs), and the dynamic contrast can be turned off.  There is a little off-axis issues, but not nearly as bad as that Sony LCD, but it is more about decreased light output when off-axis than a change in the contrast, like the sony.  The DLP does not have the detail that a modern LCD or plasma does, but it produces a very pleasing, [b]stable[/b] picture.  Keep in mind that the DLP that I have is the HLS5679, which was their first gen [b]LED[/b] DLP, and it is by far the best (IMHO) DLP they produced.  For some reason, their next (and last) generation of DLPs took a step backwards in terms of detail and build quality ($$).  It does have geometry problems, and the power supply fails on ALL of them after a couple years, but I do love that tv…..

Sorry for the digression!

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[quote=”babgvant”]
Abt has great customer service, it’s the main reason I opted to pay a little more for the set than I could have going online.
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I agree 100%.  Unfortunately, I have returned several TVs to them over the years, to the point that, after this last return cycle (Sony and Panny), that I am almost embarrassed to order from them again.  They might not even want my business, and I wouldn’t blame them. ;D

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[quote=”babgvant”]
Abt has great customer service, it’s the main reason I opted to pay a little more for the set than I could have going online.
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I agree 100%.  Unfortunately, I have returned several TVs to them over the years, to the point that, after this last return cycle (Sony and Panny), that I am almost embarrassed to order from them again.  They might not even want my business, and I wouldn’t blame them. ;D

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[quote=”babgvant”]
The buzz is annoying (mine only buzzes noticeably for really bright content), but if you can hear it from 10′ when sound is playing something is wrong with the set.
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I couldn’t hear it when there was sound playing, but I am a psycho, and couldn’t help but listen for it, and there are a LOT of quiet moments in which I could hear it.

I had ALMOST had ABT replace it, but they had already replaced the Sony with the Panny, and I didn’t want them to open yet another TV and cost them more money if I didn’t like it.  They have been very cool, and I didn’t want to take advantage of their good service.  I am pickier than most, but not in a sane way, so I struggle in life, and TV purchases. :'(

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[quote=”babgvant”]
The buzz is annoying (mine only buzzes noticeably for really bright content), but if you can hear it from 10′ when sound is playing something is wrong with the set.
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I couldn’t hear it when there was sound playing, but I am a psycho, and couldn’t help but listen for it, and there are a LOT of quiet moments in which I could hear it.

I had ALMOST had ABT replace it, but they had already replaced the Sony with the Panny, and I didn’t want them to open yet another TV and cost them more money if I didn’t like it.  They have been very cool, and I didn’t want to take advantage of their good service.  I am pickier than most, but not in a sane way, so I struggle in life, and TV purchases. :'(

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[quote=”Mast3rL33″]
Wow. I should say that you are indeed a tough critic. I was more happy with the off axis viewing of any LCD by comparison to my old SXRD or any DLP I had encountered.

Many of the new edge-lit LED TV’s do have issue from edges IMHO. But at the same time the panel lit have their own inconsistancies.

I am happy with my 55″ Samsung LCD thus far, if I could only reduce the glare a bit more.
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Yes, some call me insane, so “tough critic” is not that bad.  😀

I have a first gen Samsung DLP LED lit.  Although the picture gets a little dimmer as you move off axis, it is not like that Sony LCD, where the actual performance of the contrast changes, at least not to my eye.  Dimmer I can deal with, poorer quality = yuk.  I think the Sammy LCDs are better than the Sonys as far as off axis, at least from what I could tell in the store.

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[quote=”Mast3rL33″]
Wow. I should say that you are indeed a tough critic. I was more happy with the off axis viewing of any LCD by comparison to my old SXRD or any DLP I had encountered.

Many of the new edge-lit LED TV’s do have issue from edges IMHO. But at the same time the panel lit have their own inconsistancies.

I am happy with my 55″ Samsung LCD thus far, if I could only reduce the glare a bit more.
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Yes, some call me insane, so “tough critic” is not that bad.  😀

I have a first gen Samsung DLP LED lit.  Although the picture gets a little dimmer as you move off axis, it is not like that Sony LCD, where the actual performance of the contrast changes, at least not to my eye.  Dimmer I can deal with, poorer quality = yuk.  I think the Sammy LCDs are better than the Sonys as far as off axis, at least from what I could tell in the store.

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