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Yep go wired, local streaming needs more bandwidth and lower latency than wireless can offer reliably.
MoCA kits are harder to find, so instead you may also want to try a HomePlug AV 500 powerline networking kit.
Probably the easiest and least hassle option is to get a nice standalone BD player for upstairs. Panasonic players are rock-solid, I’ve used multiple generations of them, and Panasonic continues to support their players for firmware fixes long after they’ve been replaced with newer models. Their 2011 models have all streaming features you could want (Hulu Plus, Netflix, Pandora, Amazon Instant, etc.) they also support basic DLNA features if you end up wanting to go the NAS route at some point. Go with the DMP-BDT110 if you have Ethernet wired upstairs, if not the DMP-BDT210 is the step up with Wi-Fi built in. Both go on sale pretty frequently at Fry’s (if you have one nearby) and on Amazon.
I’d also say MoCA. It’s about the best wired solution you can get without running Ethernet. Not too long ago I used a Netgear MoCA kit to wire up my in-law’s guest cottage to their main house since they both share the same cable TV run. It worked perfectly upon being plugged in.
The one downside to MoCA is that it is not nearly as popular as power line networking. Just about every network vendor make HomePlug power line equipment. Only a few vendors offer MoCA compliant devices, and what you can readily find are kits (sets of 2) not just individual bridges, so if you need an odd number you’ll have to get one extra. For example Newegg only lists the Netgear kit and it’s out of stock. If you live near a Fry’s they usually have the Netgear kit in stock, that’s were I got mine. Actiontec is the big vendor that makes MoCA devices for Verizon FIOS customers, you can get their equipment new on Amazon and a lot of it used on eBay from Version customers. Missing Remote did a review of the Actiontec stuff last year here.
The last time I tried phone line networking it was a joke (it was also 11 years ago or so), it could barely do an ~10Mbit connection, it usually negotiated a 5 Mbit connection in a newly built home. Which tends to make sense since really you’re trying to force wiring that only has 2-pair and was never meant to carry Ethernet data into carrying it. Also you can’t really find much HPNA equipment around, it fell very quickly out of popularity. In fact the HPNA group has now moved on to making an Ethernet over Coax specification that competes with MoCA (but isn’t compatible with DOCSIS, so you don’t want to use it) and is even harder to find equipment for than MoCA.
I have yet to try power line so I can’t speak to that personally, but it does seem like the newest generation of HomePlug stuff has some very good signal processing and filtering to help make things work. See the noise testing results in this review from Small Net Builder here.
Also running some Ethernet isn’t necessarily as bad as you’d think, it doesn’t usually require opening up walls, etc. Slipping the cable under the baseboard molding is pretty painless.
Good stuff 🙂 I’ve not used the AVS disc yet, so I think I might mess around with it and the guide later today.
Good stuff 🙂 I’ve not used the AVS disc yet, so I think I might mess around with it and the guide later today.
[quote=”Mikinho”]
Interesting, it is listed as being DLNA certified, which doesn’t actually mean much, but only from unofficial sources (i.e. [url=http://www.dexid.org/wiki/Panasonic_TCP58VT25]http://www.dexid.org/wiki/Panasonic_TCP58VT25[/url]).
[/quote]The same misinformation was floating around when Panny refreshed their 2010 Blu-ray player line as well. It turned out that some European models got DLNA, but Panny never seemd to think the US should be blessed with it. Panasonic doesn’t seem to think much of DLNA support it seems 🙁
[quote=”Mikinho”]
Interesting, it is listed as being DLNA certified, which doesn’t actually mean much, but only from unofficial sources (i.e. [url=http://www.dexid.org/wiki/Panasonic_TCP58VT25]http://www.dexid.org/wiki/Panasonic_TCP58VT25[/url]).
[/quote]The same misinformation was floating around when Panny refreshed their 2010 Blu-ray player line as well. It turned out that some European models got DLNA, but Panny never seemd to think the US should be blessed with it. Panasonic doesn’t seem to think much of DLNA support it seems 🙁
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[quote=”Skirge01″]
An “IP based interface”? My guess is that they’ll tweak it just enough so that it’s proprietary and completely negate any actual usefulness.
[/quote]My guess is that it will be the same as firewire was. It will be ruined by 5C encryption that nobody can get a license to decode.
[/quote]No, because the cable co’s see a value in it already. Most providers already have pilot projects for whole home DVR service which uses MoCA to stream shows to non-DVR set-top boxes from a main DVR. Uverse does it this way, Comcast has it slowly rolling out in areas, etc. So I would imgine it is as Skirge said, and it will just be locked down by the industry for the industry only.
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[quote=”Skirge01″]
An “IP based interface”? My guess is that they’ll tweak it just enough so that it’s proprietary and completely negate any actual usefulness.
[/quote]My guess is that it will be the same as firewire was. It will be ruined by 5C encryption that nobody can get a license to decode.
[/quote]No, because the cable co’s see a value in it already. Most providers already have pilot projects for whole home DVR service which uses MoCA to stream shows to non-DVR set-top boxes from a main DVR. Uverse does it this way, Comcast has it slowly rolling out in areas, etc. So I would imgine it is as Skirge said, and it will just be locked down by the industry for the industry only.
October 15, 2010 at 3:17 am in reply to: New FCC order on Cable Cards will not solve the SageTV certification problems #28515Yeah the key phrase there is ” the proposed rule would simply codify the CableCARD certification process as it exists today”.
All they did was put CableLabs existing private certification process into public record as a mandate. It doesn’t change anything 🙁
October 15, 2010 at 3:17 am in reply to: Re: New FCC order on Cable Cards will not solve the SageTV certi #1657Yeah the key phrase there is ” the proposed rule would simply codify the CableCARD certification process as it exists today”.
All they did was put CableLabs existing private certification process into public record as a mandate. It doesn’t change anything 🙁
Yep, my displays thus far have been budget displays, but sometime in the next couple of years it will go up to much a nicer tier and then it is certainly worth the colorimeter investment 🙂 Thanks for the great info!
Yep, my displays thus far have been budget displays, but sometime in the next couple of years it will go up to much a nicer tier and then it is certainly worth the colorimeter investment 🙂 Thanks for the great info!
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Maybe I should try to find drivers on intel website.[/quote]Yes. Go get the latest Intel drivers direct from Intel. Depending on the adapter, the Intel drivers generally install a couple of extra tabs for advanced diagnostics and configuration in the Device Manager.
[quote=”Chasseur”]
Maybe I should try to find drivers on intel website.[/quote]Yes. Go get the latest Intel drivers direct from Intel. Depending on the adapter, the Intel drivers generally install a couple of extra tabs for advanced diagnostics and configuration in the Device Manager.
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