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[mikinho]

[quote=”remotecontroller”]
Mikinho,

I have just set this all up and the only way I can get TV on the local HTPC and clients is if I disable the Windows firewall on the local HTPC or untick the bridged network from interfaces within the firewall. This is pretty much vanilla Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. Any suggestions on what I need to add/remove/setup from the rulebase in the firewall to allow the IP TV traffic?
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My tool is supposed to setup the firewall exclusions.  I’ll troubleshoot and post a fix and “Reapply Firewall Exclusions” button

[mikinho]

[quote=”SikSlayer”]
As for sharing within Home Group, I think Ben Draw from EHD had said the DRM doesn’t have support for domains, and that’s why this doesn’t work.
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That is incorrect.  PlayReady does support domains.  I’ve actually used it in a product before in this way.  It is the implementation used in this scenario that does not.  I can hopedream that it will be extended to HomeGroup at some point..

See [url=http://www.microsoft.com/PlayReady/FAQ.mspx]http://www.microsoft.com/PlayReady/FAQ.mspx[/url]

[quote]Q. What are the key features of Microsoft PlayReady?

A. Microsoft PlayReady technology supports a wide range of audio and video formats, including Windows Media Audio (WMA), Windows Media Video (WMV), Advanced Audio Coding (AAC), AAC+, enhanced AAC+, and the H.263, and H.264 video codecs. It also moves beyond audio and video to support games, images, and ringtones. In addition, it supports many business models for content, including purchased downloads, subscription, rental, preview, and pay-per-view. [b]Because it supports domains and embedded licenses, PlayReady can also enable more seamless scenarios for consumers to enjoy protected content on multiple devices.[/b]

These features are crucial components for mobile operators, handset vendors, and content services who desire to deliver an expanding range of entertainment-focused content, services and devices—both now and in the future.[/quote]

[mikinho]

[quote=”SikSlayer”]
As for sharing within Home Group, I think Ben Draw from EHD had said the DRM doesn’t have support for domains, and that’s why this doesn’t work.
[/quote]

That is incorrect.  PlayReady does support domains.  I’ve actually used it in a product before in this way.  It is the implementation used in this scenario that does not.  I can hopedream that it will be extended to HomeGroup at some point..

See [url=http://www.microsoft.com/PlayReady/FAQ.mspx]http://www.microsoft.com/PlayReady/FAQ.mspx[/url]

[quote]Q. What are the key features of Microsoft PlayReady?

A. Microsoft PlayReady technology supports a wide range of audio and video formats, including Windows Media Audio (WMA), Windows Media Video (WMV), Advanced Audio Coding (AAC), AAC+, enhanced AAC+, and the H.263, and H.264 video codecs. It also moves beyond audio and video to support games, images, and ringtones. In addition, it supports many business models for content, including purchased downloads, subscription, rental, preview, and pay-per-view. [b]Because it supports domains and embedded licenses, PlayReady can also enable more seamless scenarios for consumers to enjoy protected content on multiple devices.[/b]

These features are crucial components for mobile operators, handset vendors, and content services who desire to deliver an expanding range of entertainment-focused content, services and devices—both now and in the future.[/quote]

[mikinho]

[quote=”JohnCz”]
1. For any particular recording, would I be able to playback the content on the other 3 computers that are assigned to different InfiniTV tuner instances than the specific one this was recorded from ??  If not and you are using network storage, you will not want all your recordings commingled under the same folder.
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You will not.  Protected content is restricted to the PC it was recorded on and to any extenders connected to it.  Ideally Microsoft would work out an agreement that protected content is shared among a Home Group but that is really just a pipe dream at this point.

Yes, if you transfer your recordings to a network storage device you will want to either partition it or include sub-folders for each client PC.  Fluid Digital actually offers a cool NAS that does this.

[quote=”JohnCz”]
2. Also, if you have a laptop assigned…can you take some of your recordings with you ex. on the plane, even though you are no longer connected to the network tuner ??
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If you recorded them on the laptop yes.

[mikinho]

[quote=”JohnCz”]
1. For any particular recording, would I be able to playback the content on the other 3 computers that are assigned to different InfiniTV tuner instances than the specific one this was recorded from ??  If not and you are using network storage, you will not want all your recordings commingled under the same folder.
[/quote]

You will not.  Protected content is restricted to the PC it was recorded on and to any extenders connected to it.  Ideally Microsoft would work out an agreement that protected content is shared among a Home Group but that is really just a pipe dream at this point.

Yes, if you transfer your recordings to a network storage device you will want to either partition it or include sub-folders for each client PC.  Fluid Digital actually offers a cool NAS that does this.

[quote=”JohnCz”]
2. Also, if you have a laptop assigned…can you take some of your recordings with you ex. on the plane, even though you are no longer connected to the network tuner ??
[/quote]

If you recorded them on the laptop yes.

[mikinho]

[quote=”SikSlayer”]
Thanks for posting this guide. News of this new feature is what made me finally decide to buy a Ceton, and not wait on the 3 tuner SiliconDust device. I’ve decided to buy a BD-enabled Atom/Ion or a Core i3 PC in the Spring for the bedroom. I’ll share one of the 4 tuners on that. The ZOTAC ZBOXHD-ID34BR is a front runner.

Extenders never did everything I wanted of it, and now, I won’t have to compromise.
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I actually tested the Tuner Sharing on a ZOTAC AtomIon2.  Worked out great.

The only downside is anything not marked Copy-Freely will need to be recorded on each HTPC if you want it viewable from anywhere.  This is honestly not a concern for me since only premium content is marked by Comcast as Copy-Once.  I also don’t archive Recorded TV.

I’ll hopefully have my shared guide implementation released before the beta firmware goes public.

[mikinho]

[quote=”SikSlayer”]
Thanks for posting this guide. News of this new feature is what made me finally decide to buy a Ceton, and not wait on the 3 tuner SiliconDust device. I’ve decided to buy a BD-enabled Atom/Ion or a Core i3 PC in the Spring for the bedroom. I’ll share one of the 4 tuners on that. The ZOTAC ZBOXHD-ID34BR is a front runner.

Extenders never did everything I wanted of it, and now, I won’t have to compromise.
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I actually tested the Tuner Sharing on a ZOTAC AtomIon2.  Worked out great.

The only downside is anything not marked Copy-Freely will need to be recorded on each HTPC if you want it viewable from anywhere.  This is honestly not a concern for me since only premium content is marked by Comcast as Copy-Once.  I also don’t archive Recorded TV.

I’ll hopefully have my shared guide implementation released before the beta firmware goes public.

[mikinho]

Btw, I did test network tuning two InfiniTVs on the same network and mismatching tuners on different Host PCs.

I had no problems watching Live TV on 8 different PCs simultaneously.  Sadly I no longer have the 2nd InfiniTV.

[mikinho]

Btw, I did test network tuning two InfiniTVs on the same network and mismatching tuners on different Host PCs.

I had no problems watching Live TV on 8 different PCs simultaneously.  Sadly I no longer have the 2nd InfiniTV.

[mikinho]

[quote=”swoon”]
If I understand correctly, there is no real intelligence behind what tuner is chosen by the network clients so that is why you are recommending disabling shared tuners on the host HTPC?
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That is correct.  If you do not disable the shared out tuners on the Host HTPC you’ll have potentially undesirable behavior.

This may change in the final firmware though.

[quote=”swoon”]
If this is true, it seems some industrious person could write an app to handle this more gracefully.[/quote]

I’ve got something written already that I’ll talk about soon but it is trickier than a ClearQAM tuner due to the OCUR activation.  My implementation is really targeted for my ideal scenario as well so I don’t believe it will be as useful.

[mikinho]

[quote=”swoon”]
If I understand correctly, there is no real intelligence behind what tuner is chosen by the network clients so that is why you are recommending disabling shared tuners on the host HTPC?
[/quote]

That is correct.  If you do not disable the shared out tuners on the Host HTPC you’ll have potentially undesirable behavior.

This may change in the final firmware though.

[quote=”swoon”]
If this is true, it seems some industrious person could write an app to handle this more gracefully.[/quote]

I’ve got something written already that I’ll talk about soon but it is trickier than a ClearQAM tuner due to the OCUR activation.  My implementation is really targeted for my ideal scenario as well so I don’t believe it will be as useful.

[mikinho]

Please note (and I’ll add this to the guide).  What setting up a static IP address you will need to use a static IP address in your subnet.

For most people this will be in the 192.168.1.x-192.168.1.254 range.  I’ll include instructions on how to determine what IP address and subnet mask to you.  If you are unsure, use the DHCP client.

[mikinho]

Please note (and I’ll add this to the guide).  What setting up a static IP address you will need to use a static IP address in your subnet.

For most people this will be in the 192.168.1.x-192.168.1.254 range.  I’ll include instructions on how to determine what IP address and subnet mask to you.  If you are unsure, use the DHCP client.

[mikinho]

Not that I am aware but the latest firmwares have been stable so I imagine it isn’t too far off.

[mikinho]

Not that I am aware but the latest firmwares have been stable so I imagine it isn’t too far off.

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