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[mikinho]

[quote=”Meester.Rip”]
About the Copy Freely issue. That only affects copying a file off the system right? Protected recordings will play on extenders?
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Correct, the CC protection flags will not affect Media Center Extenders as they are considered an extension of the computer.

And Copy Freely (0x00) can be copied and watched from any computer.  Anything above it can not.

[quote]
0x00 – Copy freely – Content is not copy protected.
0x01 – Copy No More – Essentially the same as 0x02
0x02 – Copy Once – A recording can be made, but that is it.
0x03 – Copy Never – the content can be recorded and viewed for 90 minutes after transmission, and is not transferable.
0x04 – Content is Copy Once for digital output, but would have Macrovision 7 Day Unlimited restriction applied on the analog outputs. This affects content viewed either on an HDTV with component cabling or on a standard definition TV. It also affects content saved to VCR or DVD when the recorder is connected to an analog output on the DVR.
0x07 – Content is Copy Never for digital content (deleted after 90 minutes) and Macrovision 7 day/24 hour for content recorded from analog channels. Content cannot be transferred via TiVoToGo transfers or MRV, and cannot be saved to VCR or DVD.
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via [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_Control_Information]Wikipedia[/url]

[mikinho]

[quote=”Meester.Rip”]
About the Copy Freely issue. That only affects copying a file off the system right? Protected recordings will play on extenders?
[/quote]

Correct, the CC protection flags will not affect Media Center Extenders as they are considered an extension of the computer.

And Copy Freely (0x00) can be copied and watched from any computer.  Anything above it can not.

[quote]
0x00 – Copy freely – Content is not copy protected.
0x01 – Copy No More – Essentially the same as 0x02
0x02 – Copy Once – A recording can be made, but that is it.
0x03 – Copy Never – the content can be recorded and viewed for 90 minutes after transmission, and is not transferable.
0x04 – Content is Copy Once for digital output, but would have Macrovision 7 Day Unlimited restriction applied on the analog outputs. This affects content viewed either on an HDTV with component cabling or on a standard definition TV. It also affects content saved to VCR or DVD when the recorder is connected to an analog output on the DVR.
0x07 – Content is Copy Never for digital content (deleted after 90 minutes) and Macrovision 7 day/24 hour for content recorded from analog channels. Content cannot be transferred via TiVoToGo transfers or MRV, and cannot be saved to VCR or DVD.
[/quote]
via [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_Control_Information]Wikipedia[/url]

[mikinho]

Well if the review wasn’t enough, the newsletter has been sent out and it is official–The Ceton InfiniTV 4 has begun shipping.

For those eager to get your hands on the drivers, it looks like that is live too.  I would personally still recommend waiting until get the your InfiniTV or at the very least check for an update prior to installing.

Thanks Ceton!

[quote=”The Ceton Team”]
Dear Michael,

We have some great news! The Ceton [url=http://www.cetoncorp.com/products.php]InfiniTV 4[/url] has begun shipping!

The first batch of production units have landed in the US and are en-route to the [url=http://www.cetoncorp.com/buy.php]Pre-Order[/url] Program retailers (Zones, Cannon PC and Fluid Digital). As we mentioned previously, they will ship to consumers on a first ordered/first shipped basis. We expect this first batch of units will start arriving at consumer homes starting next week, depending on the shipment method chosen when the pre-order was placed. As we also mentioned previously, your credit card will be charged when your unit(s) ship and some people will start seeing credit card pre-authorizations and charges starting this week. The production units are being produced in waves, which means the next batch is currently being manufactured, and will follow this same process until all the Pre-Order Program units have been delivered to your doors. We will continue to manufacture and ship all Pre-Order Program units as fast as we can but it will take some weeks for the entire backlog of orders to arrive at their end destination. Thank you for your continued support and patience.

We also want to let you know that we have posted the InfiniTV 4 Installer application, detailed installation instructions, an installation video (courtesy of Cannon PC) and warranty information on a new [url=http://www.cetoncorp.com/infinitv/support]InfiniTV 4 support page[/url] on our web site.

Important note for FiOS customers: due to recent changes related to encrypting content on some FiOS networks, we will be posting a firmware update on the support site above for FiOS customers only. Non-FiOS customers can install the update but there will be no benefit.

Cheers,
[url=http://www.cetoncorp.com/company_about.php]The Ceton Team[/url][/quote]

[mikinho]

Well if the review wasn’t enough, the newsletter has been sent out and it is official–The Ceton InfiniTV 4 has begun shipping.

For those eager to get your hands on the drivers, it looks like that is live too.  I would personally still recommend waiting until get the your InfiniTV or at the very least check for an update prior to installing.

Thanks Ceton!

[quote=”The Ceton Team”]
Dear Michael,

We have some great news! The Ceton [url=http://www.cetoncorp.com/products.php]InfiniTV 4[/url] has begun shipping!

The first batch of production units have landed in the US and are en-route to the [url=http://www.cetoncorp.com/buy.php]Pre-Order[/url] Program retailers (Zones, Cannon PC and Fluid Digital). As we mentioned previously, they will ship to consumers on a first ordered/first shipped basis. We expect this first batch of units will start arriving at consumer homes starting next week, depending on the shipment method chosen when the pre-order was placed. As we also mentioned previously, your credit card will be charged when your unit(s) ship and some people will start seeing credit card pre-authorizations and charges starting this week. The production units are being produced in waves, which means the next batch is currently being manufactured, and will follow this same process until all the Pre-Order Program units have been delivered to your doors. We will continue to manufacture and ship all Pre-Order Program units as fast as we can but it will take some weeks for the entire backlog of orders to arrive at their end destination. Thank you for your continued support and patience.

We also want to let you know that we have posted the InfiniTV 4 Installer application, detailed installation instructions, an installation video (courtesy of Cannon PC) and warranty information on a new [url=http://www.cetoncorp.com/infinitv/support]InfiniTV 4 support page[/url] on our web site.

Important note for FiOS customers: due to recent changes related to encrypting content on some FiOS networks, we will be posting a firmware update on the support site above for FiOS customers only. Non-FiOS customers can install the update but there will be no benefit.

Cheers,
[url=http://www.cetoncorp.com/company_about.php]The Ceton Team[/url][/quote]

[mikinho]

I also wanted to address some questions on the lack of ClearQAM support without a CableCARD.

The issue is that the OCUR channel scanning was based largely on ATI DCT OCUR implementation.  Whether intentional or not, it looks like Media Center expects a NTSC tuner and stream available.  I’m just waiting on some perfmons to finish to test a work-around.  I don’t believe it will work to be honest but who knows what the source code is really doing.  Hopefully it is something unintentionally left over that can be patched or worked around.  One thing I can say for certain is that Ceton is working hard to deliver what us end-users want.  Their hands are tied in many cases but we’ve already seen them lobby CableLabs for changes, I can’t imagine they won’t do the same with Microsoft or at the very least a work-around.

[mikinho]

I also wanted to address some questions on the lack of ClearQAM support without a CableCARD.

The issue is that the OCUR channel scanning was based largely on ATI DCT OCUR implementation.  Whether intentional or not, it looks like Media Center expects a NTSC tuner and stream available.  I’m just waiting on some perfmons to finish to test a work-around.  I don’t believe it will work to be honest but who knows what the source code is really doing.  Hopefully it is something unintentionally left over that can be patched or worked around.  One thing I can say for certain is that Ceton is working hard to deliver what us end-users want.  Their hands are tied in many cases but we’ve already seen them lobby CableLabs for changes, I can’t imagine they won’t do the same with Microsoft or at the very least a work-around.

[mikinho]

Who said anything about their guide, that is where HD PVR comes in =)

[mikinho]

Who said anything about their guide, that is where HD PVR comes in =)

[mikinho]

I’m very happy Houston decided not to go down the TA route, apparently they were close to adopting it.

For now, I’m happy to uninstall the Ceton Tuning Adapter service.

[mikinho]

I’m very happy Houston decided not to go down the TA route, apparently they were close to adopting it.

For now, I’m happy to uninstall the Ceton Tuning Adapter service.

[mikinho]

Good point, I should have added more basic information for those new to CableCARD tuners.

I was a little rushed.  Part 2 and Part 3 definitely isn’t geared to “noobs” either. 

[mikinho]

Good point, I should have added more basic information for those new to CableCARD tuners.

I was a little rushed.  Part 2 and Part 3 definitely isn’t geared to “noobs” either. 

[mikinho]

[quote=”Armyb77″]
Great Review! Can’t wait for the other parts i’m hoping i’ll have my card by the time the last one posts…laughs
Thanks for the heat check on the 320!

;D
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I’ll have pictures of the 320 soon.  It fits the case perfectly.  I have 3 hard drives in there and was concerned that the InfiniTV4 would be too long to fit, but nope.

[mikinho]

[quote=”Armyb77″]
Great Review! Can’t wait for the other parts i’m hoping i’ll have my card by the time the last one posts…laughs
Thanks for the heat check on the 320!

;D
[/quote]

I’ll have pictures of the 320 soon.  It fits the case perfectly.  I have 3 hard drives in there and was concerned that the InfiniTV4 would be too long to fit, but nope.

[mikinho]

Unfortunately not but Part I of the review will be up today.

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