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get a proper hard drive. Seagates are just nothing but trouble. At least in my experience they are.
-Josh
of all the over head ceiling mounted projectors i’ve installed most of which are 50′ hdmi cable runs i’ve not once had an issue with PQ, or stability. Some installers have seen hand shake issues when going 50′ or more, if that really is the case Monoprice also sells and HDMI repeater/booster, http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041914&p_id=2849&seq=1&format=2 and those I’ve used when doing 100′ hdmi runs and they’ve worked really well.
I know http://www.htguys.com have tested 100′ monoprice hdmi cable as well and had mixed results.
but as said above if you want, just get some like this: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042501&p_id=6177&seq=1&format=2 two runs of cat6 and those wall plates and boom you’re done.
-Josh
[quote=”jmallory”]
2.) Are you using a separate NIC for the HD Homerun? If so, what type? What you could be seeing is that while the HD Homerun is in place the HD Homerun is creating additional interrupts which is causing an additional load on the system.
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yea I am using an Intel gigabit nic plugged directly from that into my HD HR, no switches or hubs or anything like that.
-Josh
[quote=”jmallory”]
2.) Are you using a separate NIC for the HD Homerun? If so, what type? What you could be seeing is that while the HD Homerun is in place the HD Homerun is creating additional interrupts which is causing an additional load on the system.
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yea I am using an Intel gigabit nic plugged directly from that into my HD HR, no switches or hubs or anything like that.
-Josh
[quote=”Meester.Rip”]
Can you disable the Ceton tuner in Device manager to see if the HDHR still works fine?[/quote]yea both tuners work perfectly fine independent of each other. but when both together both the cable card tuned CBS 233 in my case and the ota atsc 4.1 both do not work.
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Can you go into the guide settings and disable the Ceton tuner from being a source for CBS. Not in the guide from the main screen I mean the settings that you drill down into from tasks. [/quote]yea tried that still doesnt work.
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Do you already have a support ticket in at CETON and SD?[/quote]have a ticket open with Ceton, but haven’t heard anything form SD yet.
[quote=”Meester.Rip”]
Can you disable the Ceton tuner in Device manager to see if the HDHR still works fine?[/quote]yea both tuners work perfectly fine independent of each other. but when both together both the cable card tuned CBS 233 in my case and the ota atsc 4.1 both do not work.
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Can you go into the guide settings and disable the Ceton tuner from being a source for CBS. Not in the guide from the main screen I mean the settings that you drill down into from tasks. [/quote]yea tried that still doesnt work.
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Do you already have a support ticket in at CETON and SD?[/quote]have a ticket open with Ceton, but haven’t heard anything form SD yet.
[quote=”swoon”]
Have you used the HDHR and Ceton diagnostic tools. HDHR has some nice tools like the command-line tool to test the tuner and tell you the cause of the error. I can provide you the instruction if you’ve never used it before.Since you work with RF, do you have access to a spectrum analyzer to verify whether there is some sort of interference at this frequency that is seemingly caused by the HDHR?
[/quote]Yea I do have access to a spectrum analyzer however it’s a bench analyzer, and way too expensive just to haul out of the shop and take it home with me 😉
[quote=”swoon”]
Have you used the HDHR and Ceton diagnostic tools. HDHR has some nice tools like the command-line tool to test the tuner and tell you the cause of the error. I can provide you the instruction if you’ve never used it before.Since you work with RF, do you have access to a spectrum analyzer to verify whether there is some sort of interference at this frequency that is seemingly caused by the HDHR?
[/quote]Yea I do have access to a spectrum analyzer however it’s a bench analyzer, and way too expensive just to haul out of the shop and take it home with me 😉
[quote=”Meester.Rip”]
I would not say that is the optimal way to run the coax but with the tuners off the inital split should have enough signal. I didn’t see where you have the SD tuners in there.[/quote]How is that not “optimal”? It is the lowest line loss you can get. I’ve always had issues with my cable modem behind amps and splitters so that is why i have my cable modem that way, then I figured I’d do the same with my Ceton.
Again if you read above, IF and only IF I remove my HD HR from my setup, the Ceton works 100% perfect with zero issues.
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Ultimately you want to run the cable co line directly into a TAP. A tap is not a splitter, although it is sort of similar in that it provides 2 output legs from 1 input. A splitter divides the power in 2 and the power at each out leg is the same. A tap loses the rated value through the TAP leg but only a small insertion loss through the OUT leg. A DC-9, for example, loses 9dB through the TAP leg, but only ~2dB through the OUT leg. The best way to connect a cable modem would be to have the TAP leg connected to the cable modem and the OUT leg going to the TV distribution system, whether it be a splitter or an amplifier (depends on how many outlets you have).[/quote]I had a TAP in my old setup, where Coax from outside came in, then into the tap and into the modem.
the setup I have now hasn’t degraded the signal or performance of the modem at all so didn’t thing anything of it.
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I assume you had the latest firmware from SD installed on your tuners and the latest drivers. Both from August I think.[/quote]Yup on both accounts.
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Have you posted this on TheGreenButton also. I imagine your setup is identical to many others.
[/quote]Na… not a fan of TGB. Tend to stay away from that site as much as possible.
[quote=”Meester.Rip”]
I would not say that is the optimal way to run the coax but with the tuners off the inital split should have enough signal. I didn’t see where you have the SD tuners in there.[/quote]How is that not “optimal”? It is the lowest line loss you can get. I’ve always had issues with my cable modem behind amps and splitters so that is why i have my cable modem that way, then I figured I’d do the same with my Ceton.
Again if you read above, IF and only IF I remove my HD HR from my setup, the Ceton works 100% perfect with zero issues.
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Ultimately you want to run the cable co line directly into a TAP. A tap is not a splitter, although it is sort of similar in that it provides 2 output legs from 1 input. A splitter divides the power in 2 and the power at each out leg is the same. A tap loses the rated value through the TAP leg but only a small insertion loss through the OUT leg. A DC-9, for example, loses 9dB through the TAP leg, but only ~2dB through the OUT leg. The best way to connect a cable modem would be to have the TAP leg connected to the cable modem and the OUT leg going to the TV distribution system, whether it be a splitter or an amplifier (depends on how many outlets you have).[/quote]I had a TAP in my old setup, where Coax from outside came in, then into the tap and into the modem.
the setup I have now hasn’t degraded the signal or performance of the modem at all so didn’t thing anything of it.
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I assume you had the latest firmware from SD installed on your tuners and the latest drivers. Both from August I think.[/quote]Yup on both accounts.
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Have you posted this on TheGreenButton also. I imagine your setup is identical to many others.
[/quote]Na… not a fan of TGB. Tend to stay away from that site as much as possible.
[quote=”swoon”]
What does the diagram look like with the HDHR and other tuners?[/quote]HD HR doesn’t touch my cable tv coax. It is directly connected to an antenna in my attic.
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Does the pixelation happen constantly or periodically. If periodically, is the frequency repeatable or random and how often is the period?[/quote]both, some times happens constantly to the point the picture never comes back, or periodically. And again ONLY happens when the HD HR is installed and setup on the pc, once removed all issues with the Ceton go away.
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Does it happen when just viewing the CBS affiliate and not recording anything else?
[/quote]only on CBS.
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If it is only your CBS affiliate having the issue, have you tried powering off any wireless transmission devices as a test?
[/quote]I too thought it might be CBS, but again, any other ATSC tuner I put in the system, Aver Duet, Aver M780 and Vista View Sabar DA1n1. All of them work perfectly fine on ATSC.
The only conclusion I have is it may be a bad HD HR tuner, but funny thing is that the HD HR worked perfect before the Ceton.
[quote=”swoon”]
What does the diagram look like with the HDHR and other tuners?[/quote]HD HR doesn’t touch my cable tv coax. It is directly connected to an antenna in my attic.
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Does the pixelation happen constantly or periodically. If periodically, is the frequency repeatable or random and how often is the period?[/quote]both, some times happens constantly to the point the picture never comes back, or periodically. And again ONLY happens when the HD HR is installed and setup on the pc, once removed all issues with the Ceton go away.
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Does it happen when just viewing the CBS affiliate and not recording anything else?
[/quote]only on CBS.
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If it is only your CBS affiliate having the issue, have you tried powering off any wireless transmission devices as a test?
[/quote]I too thought it might be CBS, but again, any other ATSC tuner I put in the system, Aver Duet, Aver M780 and Vista View Sabar DA1n1. All of them work perfectly fine on ATSC.
The only conclusion I have is it may be a bad HD HR tuner, but funny thing is that the HD HR worked perfect before the Ceton.
[quote=”swoon”]
Josh,You’ve got to isolate the issue. I’d start where Mikinho suggests and that is with your cabling as that is the most likely cause. Remove any unnecessary splits and terminate any unused splitter ports. Check all of your cabling. [/quote]
Already did that, I do this sort of thing for a living, so I know how RF works, how bad splitters are, and what kind of line loss/attenuation you get.
I’ve got all bran new RG6QS coax, terminations, and only two splitters in my whole setup (see attached diagram above)
I know for a fact its not a signal issue as AGAIN, CBS works 100% perfect when the HD HR is removed from the system, as the HD HR was setup for ATSC and didn’t touch my cable tv coax in any part.
So again CBS works 100% perfect with no issues when HD HR is removed from the setup, but once its hooked back up, all hell breaks loose.
-Josh
[quote=”swoon”]
Josh,You’ve got to isolate the issue. I’d start where Mikinho suggests and that is with your cabling as that is the most likely cause. Remove any unnecessary splits and terminate any unused splitter ports. Check all of your cabling. [/quote]
Already did that, I do this sort of thing for a living, so I know how RF works, how bad splitters are, and what kind of line loss/attenuation you get.
I’ve got all bran new RG6QS coax, terminations, and only two splitters in my whole setup (see attached diagram above)
I know for a fact its not a signal issue as AGAIN, CBS works 100% perfect when the HD HR is removed from the system, as the HD HR was setup for ATSC and didn’t touch my cable tv coax in any part.
So again CBS works 100% perfect with no issues when HD HR is removed from the setup, but once its hooked back up, all hell breaks loose.
-Josh
[quote=”Mikinho”]
The reason I ask about your hardware is that you have introduced [i]at least[/i] 1 additional four-way split when adding the InfiniTV4 due to the internal splitter.If your signal is already on the low-end but worked fine before you could run into issues.
[/quote]See my previous post. I re-did my coax setup in my home prior to installing the Ceton.
Also the “Internal split” on the Ceton card doesn’t introduce as much loss as a passive coax splitter not even close by any means.
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