The MissingRemote Podcast - Episode 5

May 23 2011
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It's the third week of the month, which means it's time for our monthly MissingRemote Podcast. This month we had our usual troublemakers: Aaron Ledger (@Swoon_), Andrew Van Til (@Babgvant), Josh Shenkle (@Umdivx) and Kyle Button (@techbutton), and for his first month welcome Matt Miller. I'm your host Mike Garcen (@missingremote and @Mikegarcen).

And as usual warning, since we are doing this only once a month and we have a ton of topics to cover, these shows are a bit longer than your typical podcasts so feel free to skip around or enjoy it over some time.

Show Minutes

00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:40 - 2011 Spring/Summer TV Guide Listings
00:09:45 - brite-View Air SyncHD
00:14:00 - Boxee Box Review
00:27:00 - EX495 WHS2011 upgrade
00:43:40 - Cyberlink PowerDVD 11
01:02:30 - ESPN3WMC
01:06:00 - My Channel Logos 2 Released
01:14:00 - SecondRun.tv
01:20:00 - NASA TV Update
01:22:00 - Ceton InfiniTV Network Tuner Wizard
01:31:00 - Lucid Virtu Available
01:35:00 - My Movies 4.01 Pre release
01:36:45 - Beginner’s Build and Assembly Guides
01:47:00 - HDHomeRune Prime (Finally) Officially Available for Preorder
01:52:00 - Poll of the Month Results: What Size Motherboard and Case Does Your Primary HTPC Use?
02:00:00 - New Poll: How does your household primarily consume movies in your home theater?
02:03:00 - Question of the Month (Ask The Panel): RAID
02:23:00 - Topic of the Month: How to make a family-friendly HTPC setup
02:39:00 - Wrap-up

Don't forget to partake in our Poll of the month question.

And lastly, let us know how you feel about the podcast! What you liked/didn't like, what you'd like to hear discussed...any and all feedback is welcome!

As we mention in the podcast, we are continuing our request for an "Ask the Panel" item where we will take a question or topic suggested by comments to this thread and will discuss in detail.

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Comments

Great show once again, will mikinho be back for future podcasts?

Regarding your discussion on RAID with WHS2011. Seems there was some misinformation given. A hardware RAID array can be transferred to a different system (motherboard) and OS. So if your MOBO or OS drive fails your data is still protected. I've re-installed my WHS2011 OS and the array is found without issue. So those with large (6TB+) media libraries, RAID can be a good solution. WHS v1 did not offer any internal backup other than folder duplication. So for a 10TB media library, if you wanted any redundancy it was a 1:1 backup (10TB x 2 = 20TB Surprised) Of course you have the disc, but who is really going to go and re-rip a few hundred BD for a second time. Those having multiple clients pulling data from a single source, RAID can be great. It's used in enterprise environments, right? So you have to do a little planning.

Successful RAID for storage enthusiasts:

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2011/05/11/guide-a-storage-enthusiasts-j...

http://homeservershow.com/raid-and-windows-home-server.html

 

Did you use the same model motherboard when migrating?  It might work moving b/w boards that use the same underlying technology (like RST), but I have a hard time seeing it just work when swapping controllers.

I used the same motherboard v1 to 2011 as I do not have the funds to build a second server just to upgrade to 2011. 

I've been following the BYOB podcasters for months here:

http://homeservershow.com/category/byob

...Who have been doing some extensive testing, (http://homeservershow.com/another-round-with-raid.html) I was sold for MY situation.

Yes, I agree the board needs to use the same underlying technology.

When I heard "Don't use RAID in your home server" I was happy to hear you're response. I doubt there are many users with 10TB+ of data that are not using some form of RAID.

But hardware RAID is different than SW (MOBO) RAID, since it's the controller (which can be replaced if it goes bad) doing the calculations. Again this is just media and not critical data, but I still want a bit of redundancy, better performance & a single Video share - without duplication.

 

You're right that re-ripping isn't something I look forward to, but we're talking a worst-case scenario of say about 50 BDs for a 2TB volume going kaput. And that's assuming the drive goes without warning or chance to pull the data onto another drive. If I absolutely had to watch a BD and it went down with a volume, it's simple enough to put the disc in the drive and watch.

For me, ripped BDs are not "mission critical" so I don't need the availability (and associated care and feeding) that RAID offers and requires. That's not to say it isn't the right solution for you or others.

I use a dedicated hardware RAID (RAID 6) card so if I can always move it around between boards.  I wouldn't use onboard RAID for a couple reason: 1- As Andrew noted it would need to be the same controller; 2- Unless you have two SATA controllers onboard it forces you to use RAID mode instead of AHCI.  If you have a SSD as the boot driver, depending on a SSD, it can cause TRIM to no longer work.

There you go...Laughing

And yes, I'll be back for more Podcasts.  At least until Mike bans me! Smile

Thanks for this Michael, I did not think of these during the podcast.

Guys, I was very disappointed when you implied that Mythtv was not easy to setup.   Guess this means that I'll have to put together a guide sometime...  I find it very easy to do these days, especially when you buy your hardware with Mythtv in mind.

I'm looking forward to it!  Do you use MythDora? 

While I don't belive MythTV is difficult to setup, I do believe it is more complicated than 7MC, SageTV v7 and XBMC and requires higher level of linux knowledge than many users have.

I've been using Fedora for the base OS and running prepackaged MythTV on top of that.  I've run MythDora as well as MythBuntu (and vanilla Ubuntu with MythTV loaded on top).  But I started Linux with Red Hat and then Fedora and that is what I always seem to come back to.  But getting started with something like MythDora is very easy.  I've written a guide on it in the past.  Once some version of Mythtv is on your system it's fairly easy to get something up and running fairly quickly in my opinion.  Of course you could spend months tweaking things if you want (but you don't have to).

That's Mike, the MythTV hater for ya! I've actually never set up MythTV, but I do remember several years ago when I looked into it, it looked like a lot of work. I'd love to see a fresh take on it though. We definitely could use a good guide on the subject.

LOL, c'mon Lothar, guide time!! Smile

If you want your listeners to understand RAID I suggest you discuss it again on the next podcast or provide details in the podcast 5 post. Several parts of the discussion were wrong, or by the time they got it correct so confusing it was hard for some one that knows raid to understand what was just discussed. As an example of something wrong. When talking about RAID0 they kept saying it was spanning. Actually, RAID0 is striping, which is very different than spanning. I don't want to criticize, I know too late so I am sorry, but I do feel clarification is due.

To add to that (and not arguing w/ you...agreeing) drive spanning doesn't technically have anything to do w/ RAID as it is a feature of an operating system to overflow data.  RAID only consists of striping, mirroring and a combination of the two.

A purest won't even consider RAID0 "RAID" since it wasn't one of the original RAID levels defined.  RAID0 really has no place in modern home computing.  Gamers who previously swore by RAID0 should get a SSD.

Gamers who previously swore by RAID0 should get a SSD.

BTW, I have read of people using SSD in Raid0 Surprised

I've read it too and unless they are using an Enterprise level SSD it is a bad idea.  TRIM is not supported on any SSD running in RAID0.

If you are going to spend the money on dual SSD for RAID0 get a OCZ RevoDrive X2 which uses four SSDs in RAID0 or the original which uses two.  The performance is better and the controller is optimized for RAID0.

Thanks for the comment. You're right that we got it wrong Embarassed with regards to saying spanning when striping is what is meant.

Love the podcasts y'all! I have a hefty commute, so its a nice change. Also nice to put some voices to all these comments on the forums. Anyways, keep up the great work. I had my 7-year old in the car with me and he said, "That one guy sure says 'cool' a lot daddy". Can we get a 'cool' counter?

-NitDawg- 

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